Most Evil – A Discussion in Immorality

I am watching a show called ‘Most Evil’ and I am a bit intrigued by the studies done on the show – concerning with what I think is the difference between following God’s teachings and not – but following evil. Here is a scale of 22 level’s of evil:

  The scale of evil (from Wikipedia)

Category Criteria
01 Those who kill in self-defense and do not show psychopathic tendencies
02 Jealous lovers who, though egocentric or immature, are not psychopathic
03 Willing companions of killers: aberrant personality – probably impulse-ridden, with antisocial traits
04 Kill in self-defense, but had been extremely provocative towards the victim
05 Traumatized, desperate people who kill abusive relatives and others (like to support a drug habit) but lack significant traits. Genuinely remorseful.
06 Impetuous, hotheaded murderers, yet without marked psychopathic features
07 Highly narcissistic, not distinctly psychopathic people with a psychotic core who kill people close to them (jealousy an underlying motive)
08 Non psychopathic people with smoldering rage who kill when rage is ignited
09 Jealous lovers with psychopathic features
10 Killers of people who were “in the way” or who killed, for example, witnesses (egocentric but not distinctly psychopathic)
11 Psychopathic killers of people “in the way”
12 Power-hungry psychopaths who killed when they were “cornered”
13 Killers with inadequate, rage-filled personalities who “snapped”
14 Ruthlessly self-centered psychopathic schemers
15 Psychopathic “cold-blooded” spree or multiple murders
16 Psychopaths committing multiple vicious acts
17 Sexually perverse serial murderers, torture-murderers (among the males, rape is the primary motive with murder to hide the evidence; Systematic torture is not a primary factor)
18 Torture-murderers with murder the primary motive
19 Psychopaths driven to terrorism, subjugation, intimidation and rape, (short of murder)
20 Torture murderers with torture as the primary motive but in psychotic personalities
21 Psychopaths preoccupied with torture in the extreme, but not known to have committed murder
22 Psychopathic torture-murderers, with torture their primary motive

In the show they explain something about each of these categories – they actually get worse the better liar a person is – which lines up with one specific passage in John. The categories include a ‘who’s who’ of values I would consider outright evil:

  • Jealousy
  • Anger (slight to uncontrollable)
  • Pride (egocentric/self-centred)
  • Liars
  • Power Hungry
  • Murderous (psycho-pathic)
  • Sexual perverison/pedophilia
  • Torture
  • Rape
  • Cannibalism
  • Bullying/Terror(ism)

Why bring up the list? It points out someting I am have been saying for a while concerning ‘immorality’. What is ‘immorality’ or ‘evil’? Well, we get a good picture of it in the 22 step to severity in this listing. I think the teachings of God are about avoiding these problems that we can do to one another – and it is outright sickening to think humanity can become so depraved to act this way – yet we have cases. This is my current definiton of immorality (hurting others wilfully).

Now if we talk about ‘answering in the court of God’ and this idea of people entering the ‘kingdom of heaven’ – well this is a list I would propose as keeping people out – similar to this list. What I am getting at is the intent the authors were using when they made such lists. What was bothersome at the time and offended the human sentiment. I think we can capture this with the list of the 22 most evil things – and understand why Paul wrote such lists as to what to avoid at all costs.

But it also talks about justice and answering to God’s court. God has given us no specific teachings that any of this is the acceptable form for humanity to take – none in 66 books. That speaks volumnes – literally! The difference betwen following God and not following God is basically summed up in one sentence ‘treat others how you want to be treated’ – and that list above ignores this foundational idea of treating people fairly. And that is the key to the looking at the teachings that lead you towards God – and those that do not.

Immorality is the problem with belonging in the ‘kingdom of God’ – and that’s the dividing line between someone and God (and that someone and community). Not something as simple as a confession – but your actions are your confession.

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11 thoughts on “Most Evil – A Discussion in Immorality

  1. I’m surprised that this: “Traumatized, desperate people who kill abusive relatives and others (like to support a drug habit) but lack significant traits. Genuinely remorseful”

    is listed after three and four. Possibly that’s because the option of someone who kills to support a drug habit is included with someone who kills an abusive relative. But I’d even have difficulties in grouping those together. A woman who kills an abusive husband isn’t in the same league as someone who kills to support a drug habit. And a woman in that situation would seem to be “better” than someone who kills in self-defense, but greatly provoked the victim. Unless I’m missing something?

    I also wonder if jealousy/pride are always negative features. A sense of pride can give someone a sense of worth. To go back to the abusive situation, a woman’s sense of pride might be the push that gets her out of that — she doesn’t deserve to be abused, she has worth, and so her pride in herself saves her life. WHile pride is connected with egotism, it’s also connected with self-respect, dignity, and delight in one’s acheivement. So that one would depend on context. Which you show by elaborating that one with egocentrisim.

    Jealousy might also produce positive benefits. If it’s focused on guarding/keeping something, such as making sure one’s time or talents aren’t wasted, then it might actually produce a more helpful person. But if it’s along the lines of jealous of someone else because they have a great car and you don’t, then it would produce a less helpful person.

  2. “I also wonder if jealousy/pride are always negative features” (OSS)

    I actually get your ideas on this – how both pride and jealousy (in balance) – can be seen as virtues. I think the reason I point it out is because when these ideas are used negatively – they get really used negatively.

    Jealousy in a relationship is kind of normal – due to closeness of the two. However, jealousy very quickly turns into anger and weird stuff (ex: stalking, hatred, abusive language, violence, etc). I have seen these aspects of it and I can clearly say they are nothing but evil and their eventual outcome when followed through are nothing but ‘death’ (if not physical – emotional and relational).

    As for pride – I think it is a good thing to be proud of your accomplishments – but also retain a level of humility. Pride, when unbalanced, makes people into animals or something similar. They start becoming selfish and overly in love with themselves – to the point of callousness of the hurt of another (as long as they are taken care of). Pride is the beginning of a fall – I agree this assumption. It’s when we start becoming proud that we lose sight of others and can destroy all we have earned. I would Hitler’s pride of the Aryan race was the extreme – but does show if this becomes unbalanced – others can get hurt.

  3. I wonder where Indian Agents would rank on the list? (Said the Just1 in humorous and semi-serious manner)

    My initial sarcastic thought lead me to interesting thought. It would seem that some people would think that they are not on the list, an Indian agent for example, whereas I guy like me would say that some Indian agents fit neatly into line 14. It’s all in who is making the judgment, I guess.

  4. True Yael – they never made the list – however someone like Koresh will be highlighted in the Most Evil series on tv – and he was an egomaniac (same with Jim Jones I am guessing). But I agree, doing evil things in the name of God for personal justification is not on the list – and I think you raise a good point.

  5. When I think ‘evil’, I think of people that believe the bible or any book is somehow divinely inspired and contains God’s commands and laws towards us. I see evil done every day in my life and quite a lot of it comes from religion. But you people are lying to YOURSELVES and I do not think there is any point in expecting you to be honest with me, when you can’t even be honest with yourselves.

  6. ” But you people are lying to YOURSELVES and I do not think there is any point in expecting you to be honest with me, when you can’t even be honest with yourselves.” (KTM)

    Good one – well you really got me there, You win. (how do you defeat such a powerful argument – so well thought out and summed up in a few sentences – i am scared). Guess i will have to give up my faith now and do whatever it is I want?

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