“And that is an egregiously contradictory statement! C’mon, Jason. You would use more brain cells than that to plan a vacation.” (Jim)
I don’t go on very many vacations to be honest – so actually ‘no I wouldn’t’. You version of contradiction is illogical – thought I’d mention that. The claim you say is in contradiction is:
“Jesus was sent by God – but is not God”
Jesus was sent by his Father – but is not his Father. This is logical. Jesus was sent by his Father – and Jesus is his Father. That not logical. Yet the 2nd one is the claim of Christianity – that Jesus and the Father are one – they are both God (yet one).
I think for a Christian to believe the Messiah is one with God in that the Messiah is God – is a strong removal from the original faith Jesus himself belonged to – so strong a removal to be in opposition to it. It breaks the very first commandment – can’t get any more removed than that.
“A few questions” (Quest)
The questions you ask are asked as if the story is 100% true already – I think there is a slant there (in my opinion).
Now the story may very well be true – but it leaves more questions. Is Jesus – because of this birth – the literal son of God? This same thing happens in the Tanakh to Sarah – and her son is not considered the ‘son of God’ (a parallel). Heck, John the Baptist is brought about the same way – a miraculous birth – does this make him a son of God? No.
The only writers to so much as touch on this subject are Matthew and Luke – that’s it. No John, James, Peter, Mark, and Paul. If this is such a strong and important doctrine – how come more than ½ the NT writers never mention it? I would also like to point out that Luke’s ‘Acts’ also does not mention it…one might think this story was an addition later on? I am not sure of that myself – I just know the doctrine means very little and was dropped altogether by Paul.
“Jesus was the same in nature as His Father and the same in nature as his mother. That would make Him 100% human and 100% Divine.” (Quest)
Quest, I hate to use some logic, but I must interject here…Jesus was 200% a person? Didn’t Hulk Hogan also give 110% in the ring? LOL. 100% is the most a human can be and I am going to break this down.
If Jesus is born as God and a human man – then Jesus isn’t exactly like us in ‘every way’ – is he? Jesus is ‘more than us’ – he’s God – he’s actually nothing like us. Jesus then dies on our behalf – which is also not true – because God cannot die. So if Jesus died then that is very strange – it reveals he is human – but how is he God? Unless God can die – split Himself into 2 – and willingly sacrifice one piece of His parts for us (died) – so ½ of God can die? It’s just very strange – cause if it’s true – then when we die – ½ of us does not die (we fully die).
“To be totally honest with you it’s a real bender. I’m not sure if your just arguing or seeking to understand the concept. Even if you don’t believe it do you follow the concept?” (Quest)
I am looking at the concept and letting it be what it is – and then delving into it and seeing what it all means. I personally cannot believe Jesus is God – it breaks the first commandment – which God demands the Jewish faith do not break. I do not believe this concept – nor that the virgin borth truly matters (real or not). I follow the teachings of Jesus and that’s what I try to do – make those active in my life. I do believe that is what it means to ‘follow Jesus’.