A Measure Away From God…

what is the substance of that trust? What is the substance of that faith? How can it be defined? What does it even mean to have faith in God, or trust God, if there’s no way to measure it?” (OSS)

I don’t think its observably measureable – that dont mean it aint measurable by the individual. It also depends on what ‘faith’ is and what we are measuring.

(a) Following the teachings and living by them is faith/trust in God

(b) Having some connection with this Being is also part of ‘faith/trust’ (an experience of some sort)

Now (a) is very measurable – we can even define that for ourselves and cross examine how much we are keeping those ideals. For example, loving your enemy is very identifiable – we determine if we are or are not doing this by our ‘actions’.

Now (b) is the part I think is not measurable. Spirit to Spirit dialogues tend not to be – some people think that is ‘crazy talk’ or ‘fictitious’. But I think there is a connection that can happen in that realm we cannot measure but can experience.

So faith/trust in God is measureable in some regards – not measureable in other ways.

Comment taken from OSS’ post ‘How far do you trust God?

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3 thoughts on “A Measure Away From God…

  1. Faith is never measurable because it is far too subjective and individualistic. This is like saying that I can measure my belief in aliens, which may also be fictitious but who really knows. As long as this faith is ‘real’ to me then I can express my commitment, thus it is measurable, but this argument is fallible. Who can verify your faith measuring tools? Nobody, is the correct answer. Faith is a subjective-personal belief that is housed in your mind and no one can actually measure the reality of your thoughts/beliefs. “I have a connection with this being”, that is simply not good enough to suggest a measurable because your measurement could never, and I repeat, never be verified by any person other than you.

  2. ““I have a connection with this being”, that is simply not good enough to suggest a measurable because your measurement could never, and I repeat, never be verified by any person other than you.” (Johnny Bird)

    I agree – with part (b) on this point. Who could measure some spiritual experience of someone elses – nobody really. Which always begs the question – if the spiritual experience one brings to the table was ‘legit/real’ in the 1st place. That’s totally subjective to one’s personal view of what they experienced.

    BTW, this is my younger bro Johnny!

  3. welcome younger Bird!

    he’s right, faith isn’t measurable, at least in ways we think. it’s fluid; changing and adapting always. there are some touchstones that we go back to, but even these are viewed in new ways given a new situation.

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